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kabin31
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 17
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: Can we expect an C3550,3560 emulators also soon? |
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As far as I know Integrated virtual switch supports just VLAN and dot1q functions.
Please someone especially developers of this great software tell me if we can expect C3550 or 3560 emulator soon? If it is really hard to implement full those functions, how about adding L3 function to them?
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myown
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Pakistan
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| as i know, many of L3 functions are already there. Most of BCMSN stuff is possible. |
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curlyjoe55
Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: 3550/3750 emulator |
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This would be really fantastic to have.
The 16-port NM in the 3640 is better than nothing. At least it has a dynamic IOS config (rather that static ".net" config). But a L3 3550 would be even better, especially to provide a higher port count for large virtual labs.
Can anyone provide any information on what the capabilities/limitations are of the "built-in" Ethernet switch? I'm referring to the [[ETHSW]] construct. How many ports can this switch support?
Anyways, this built-in seems to be L2 only and is restricted to static config, making changes during lab a bit awkward. It would be nice to have a dynamically changeable configuration like a real switch for these purposes.
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shiwan
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Can we expect an C3550,3560 emulators also soon? |
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| kabin31 wrote: |
Please someone especially developers of this great software tell me if we can expect C3550 or 3560 emulator soon? |
There will not be an emulator for a platform such as the C3550 or C3560, due to their use of ASICs. |
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myown
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Pakistan
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kabin31
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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is it a confirmed news? |
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myown
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Pakistan
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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"reportedly" always means rumors.... why you don't watch CNN and Mr. Bush speeches.
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chris Site Admin
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 468
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Well, I played a bit with various models, with no success so far. A big problem is that all switch models are doing "POST" tests to check various things about the hardware. Besides, the chips in 3550/3560/3750 are Cisco custom ASICs, so guessing how they work without a booting virtual machine is probably impossible. Without Cisco help, I don't think it can be done.
I believe I could enhance the integrated L2 switch to do also L3 routing, spanning-tree and other things, but since it is not IOS I don't think people would like it. |
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hacki Site Admin
Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 479 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Well, I played a bit with various models, with no success so far. A big problem is that all switch models are doing "POST" tests to check various things about the hardware. Besides, the chips in 3550/3560/3750 are Cisco custom ASICs, so guessing how they work without a booting virtual machine is probably impossible. Without Cisco help, I don't think it can be done. |
Maybe somebody should ask Cisco .
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I believe I could enhance the integrated L2 switch to do also L3 routing, spanning-tree and other things, but since it is not IOS I don't think people would like it. |
I totally agree - that would be unnecessary effort. |
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chris Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Hi Hacki,
I don't think they would accept, since 3550/3560/3750 aren't EOS models. Moreover, I don't know if this kind of decision can be taken by a Product Manager (IMHO, this would be a complex decision process). |
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myown
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Pakistan
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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it is very very sad news. i am not a programmer, but i can suggest that to make post, some kind of fake "replies to checking routines" can be made into system. Although it may make the system design difficult and possibly slow.
just my idea nothing else... |
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chris Site Admin
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 468
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| Well it wouldn't be so easy: for example, one of the POST test is to send packets in loopback mode. However, I don't have any info about buffers, interrupts or anything. And there are also other tests about TCAM and other ASICs. |
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myown
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Pakistan
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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can we raise funds to have few programmers which can help to investigate the required routines or coding issues.
I am not saying Chris is not capable, but only to off load some burden.
These are only mine thoughts and nothing else...... |
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wayn
Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Posts: 40 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Chris,
| Quote: | | I believe I could enhance the integrated L2 switch to do also L3 routing, spanning-tree and other things, but since it is not IOS I don't think people would like it. |
You can do L3 routing with the NM-16ESW ports. I tested the NM-16ESW ports on virtual 3640s with 12.4 image and you can use no switchport to enable L3 functions. I set up EIGRP between ESW ports on 2 different routers and the adjacency is established with no problems.
I agree many features of 3550/3560 are not supported on NM-16ESW.
Thanks again for this wonderful emulator. |
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fu123
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, have to thank also very much.
I tried the IE topology and it's working on a notebook with 2 GB Ram and 1,6 Mhz cpu. But i could not load all routers. The BB routers made all to slow.
I have set the idlepc values. With 5-6 router i got about 70-80% cpu usage. But when i start the "switches" it really gets slow. Don't know if i can enhance this more.
Not using ghost ram for example.
I could do a lot with the 16 Port switching module. A lot of functions are available. Ok, there are also a lot missing, but one can practice a lot with the module on switching and spanning tree functions.
Sometimes the vtp functions does not work, because the router could not write to the vtp database and gives an error message. Then i have to delete the files on the disk to be able to configure vtp again.
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